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Mercho
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 4633 Location: Madison,Wisconsin |
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Other than just showing off, why could anybody own a Mercedes?
Mercedes gives the idea of money. that's because they jack up all the prices on their cars that do not have half as much technology as modern Lexus's. Mercedes holders are rich and just have the capability to be ripped off. Mercedes' have awful dependability. The "W" man keeps on saying that J.D. Powers gave Mercedes a good dependability ranking. AGAIN, J.D. Powers only rates cars for the 1st 90 days. If anybody is purchasing a car just to own it for 90 days, go ahead and purchase a Mercedes. buyer Reports, which rates cars for many years, and gives Mercedes awful ratings. Sad because Lexus cars that cost less really do BETTER. Any Lexus will have more dependable and more updated technology than any Mercedes. For those who say that they own a Mercedes for its performance, that is B.S. If you need performance, get a BMW. If you need luxury,.value, safety, technology, and comfort, get a Lexus. there's no other reason to get a Mercedes other than to show off.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm |
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Jonker
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Joined: 19 Nov 2006 Posts: 4618 Location: Detroit, Michigan, US |
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doug0102's anology is the worst I have ever seen. Hey, I would not mind wearing nice and costly jeans to show off, ONLY IF IT did not BREAK AFTER 90 DAYS OF THE buy.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm |
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Alex1
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Joined: 23 Oct 2006 Posts: 4628 Location: Irvine US |
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doug0102's anology is the worst I have ever seen from the Mercedes' part. Hey, I would not mind wearing nice and costly jeans to show off, ONLY IF IT did not BREAK AFTER 90 DAYS OF THE buy. The correct analogy could be:
Say that there are a brand of jeans called "Mercedes" and another brand of jeans called "Lexus." Mercedes jeans will break and have quality problems inside a matter of months. Lexus jeans could last you years. Which could be the better pair of jeans? think about, the pair of Mercedes jeans also cost more, and the pair of Lexus jeans are more comfy and dependable, made with better materials.
Many Mercedes use plastic and faux leather for their interior. The Mercedes electronics are less user friendly than any on a Lexus.
To: The Truth
Here are some real facts:
Your E300 could be a 1995 model at the best. That was the year Mercedes' dependability hit its cusp. since then, its dependability has fallen rock bottom below Hyundai and Kia .
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm |
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Bryan9000
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Joined: 13 Nov 2006 Posts: 4619 Location: Newark, NJ,USA |
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To: The Truth
Your Mercedes Innovations are all embarassing. Here is the real truth:
Your pre 90's innovation's, I'll give you those, but Lexus was not in the U.S. at that time.
Yeah Lexus is young, at 20 years, but its innovations are far more advanced present day. I have never said that Mercedes sucked back then, I'm talking about now. post 90's
You say that in 2003, Mercedes has the 1st seven speed transmission. Well, if you weren't hiding in a closet for the past not many years, Toyota and Lexus has the 1st eight speed transmission note:eight is greater than seven . Toyota and Lexus also has perfected the CVT transmission with an INFINITE number of gears in their hybrids that get 60+ mpg. Mercedes diesels do not crack anything, because diesels and other fuels will sooner or later run out. Toyota motor corp is experimenting with electric and hydrogen vehicles.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm |
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IlloderEr
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Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 4568 Location: Rochester, New York, usa |
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To: The Truth
HERE IS WHEN you're totally WRONG...
You really think Mercedes' PRE SAFE system is good? you're an example of an ignorant buyer. The Lexus Advanced PreCollision system is way better. Other than cars that can automatically park itself, Lexus's have radar cruise control. Lexus's PreCollision system has a radar millimeter camera and two cameras in the front and a camera monitoring driver exhaustion also. Before a crash, the lexus system does lots more:
It reprograms suspension and steering ratios for best steering.
It can start braking on own.
seatbelts tighten, headrests extend to put all occupants in an best position.
Here is the best part. The two cameras and radar sensor in the front monitors and detects metal objects AND NONMETAL OBJECTS. mERCEDES' SYSTEM ONLY MONITORS METAL OBJECTS. So when Mercedes thinks its okay to crash into human beings and not into cars, Lexus' system can detect BOTH humans and cars. Haha.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm |
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Jackson A.
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Joined: 29 Nov 2006 Posts: 4433 Location: New York ny |
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Lexus also is the 1st to have those many technologies, as well as knee airbags and self parking. Everything that a Mercedes has, a Lexus also has, but better. Haha...
Also, ignorant buyer, the Mercedes SLR never been the fastest production car. Till today, the Bugatti Veyron is the fastest. And as well, watch out for the knew Toyota Supra and Lexus LF A. Before anybody says something bad about these cars, do your research 1st, before you think another Mercedes product is better than a Lexus. I have lots more to but I have to go to dinner. Those people that think that they're to get a better car when they purchase a Mercedes are the quintessential ignorant and uninformed buyer.very sad.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:23 pm |
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D.I.M
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Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 4548 Location: Glendale Cali |
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Mercedes holders today still think that they're to get the same quality and relibility as they were a three decades ago. Today, Lexus and other Japanese luxury brands are way more advanced and safe, if not better than a Mercedes. Just check buyer Reports. If I were for Mercedes, I could not talk about that Mercedes has ever had affiliation with the Daimler Chrysler Group, because they lost billions last year, While the Toyota Motor Corp. profited billions and many happy customers that have better cars, and became the world's and America's biggest car company, recently surpassing GM Motors.
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LeviBrawn
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Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 4550 Location: Fremont, Ca, US |
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6 days ago
Technology, style and looks are not Mercedes trademarks. At least the technology part belongs to Lexus, as mentioned above. Everyone that says that their Mercedes last long are those that own old Mercedes pre 90's . I want someone that has a mid 90's or newer Mercedes to confess, because they know they have lots of electrical, weather contol, and GPS navigation problems from personal experience . You guys are right, I'm in high school now. I do not have the money to pay for a Mercedes, but when I do, I'd decide a Lexus over a Mercedes. And yes, Mercedes uses lots of plastic, particularly on newer models the Mercedes dealership told me this one . Guess what, on CL's, SL's, and S classes, they're only ~81% German. The rest of the other parts come from else where. Yeah Lexus cars are usually 100% Japanese loyalty right there, with some models from America. As mentioned above, Lexus is the make with the most advanced technology, Mercedes technology is from the 90's.
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dexter
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Joined: 09 Nov 2006 Posts: 4600 Location: Toronto, Canada |
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6 days ago
Fact: buyer Reports expert, independent, and non profit dependability ratings demonstrate that a decade old 1998 Lexus LS400 has fewer problems and better dependability than a brand new 2006 Mercedes ML500.
For those who think a Mercedes is safer than a Lexus:
Even the "cheap" Toyota Camry has a five star crash ranking Lexus cars too . Well a Mercedes E and C Class only recieced a four star crash ranking. This is from testing by a government agency NHTSA . What do you think about that.I could say many pro Mercedes people are misinformed and ignorant buyers. Lets see, Lexus and Toyota beat the Mercedes in safety. dependability too. Also Quality. Oh, and technology too. what is next? Are Lexus and Toyota going to be a bigger and better car company, oh sorry, they recently became the America's biggest car company oh, and also the world's . Some could say that Mercedes is reserved for the not many elites. I'd at least a Toyota Camry has a five star crash ranking.
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:24 pm |
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langg095uge
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Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 4571 Location: Rus |
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By nature humans are competetive and insecure. A mercedes gives you more of a confidence increase than does a Lexus. Yes the benz dependability is piss poor, Yes the v6 camry has a biiger engine than the v6 E class for half the price. Yes the three series coupe is better in every way than the clk for thousands less.
But if you have the money then it's a small price to pay for that extra increase in your confidence, self esteem, happiness, perceived social position or increase in whatever. Yes it's false fix but life is way too short to attempt to be working on your isssues and insecurities.
so just live, do what makes you happy. If the next man wants a benz don't hate him, everyone wants to be happy.
If I had the money I may get a benz. For the exact reasons stated above. Everyone is like that in some way Im just the one to admit it.
I do have a problem with people who have there priorities messed up and they purchase an costly car, then they rely on others financially some how. you know the type 30 yrs still living with parents, the friend who generally looks to short you on your money or needs a loan, the family baby who generally runs to mommy when in a financial adhere
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Remims
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Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 4647 Location: Tucson US |
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MB's are well built and exact machines. it's the German engineering to shut tolarances. I can not fault them.
I'm sure that their inheritance has lots to do with someone purchasing one, just as you seem to have some perceived ideas that Lexus is just as good or better. that's your opinion, and others may have the same ideas about the MB's.
good luck.
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JosefLe
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Joined: 20 Nov 2006 Posts: 4468 Location: Fort Wayne, Indiana, US |
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who pee'd in your cornflakes?
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| Sun Sep 16, 2007 6:24 pm |
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ctoiron
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Joined: 11 Nov 2006 Posts: 4492 Location: Philadelphia US |
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People purchase Mercedes for the name of the car. just like any other luxury car you're paying for the name. now I agree with u, I don`t like anything about Mercedes, there's nothing about the car that excite`s me. I'm the kind of person that will give any car that I don`t like a benifit of dout. sense I don`t like Mercedes and don`t care for it`s style, a several years ago I just wanted to see what it felt like. so I test drove some, and didn't like the way they drove. they were all too inflexible to me etc. and the Mercedes style is a bit boring also. but everyone has their likes and dis likes of the luxury car line. as an example I love Cadillacs, Volvos, Buicks and some others, other people that i`ve talked to, say that they hate all of thee above. then there are people who love Mercedes, Jaguars, and Land Rovers, which I don`t like any thing about them vehicles. I know that this may sound crazy to u, but there are some people that don`t like Lexus, and Infiniti`s. but love BMW`s or Lincolns and hate Audi`s. so the list goes on. I have a great or great uncle my grandmothers brother, who owns a Mercedes. and has generally gotten a Mercedes, I asked him why does he like it, he's stated that it's a well built comfy car. he still has his 1st one that he drives from time to time when he's not in his newer one. since I was a kid. He brought it brand new, its a 1985 and he kepts it clean the car still looks new. but eventhough he enjoys it. it isn't my kind of car. but if you got the money for it and you like purchase it.
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Kababu
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Joined: 23 Nov 2006 Posts: 4596 Location: Tampa Florida |
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Flash Toyotas, that's, the Lexus brand are where Mercedes Benz were 20 years ago. People now purchase Lexus for comfort, dependability and safety, but in fact you may be able to get pretty much the same thing with a top of the line Toyota.
I must be a awful show off. I have an S class coupe and it is only 24 years old.
Up to about 1991 if you wanted comfort, dependability and safety plus continent crossing capability you bought Mercedes Benz. it is been pretty clear that Germans do not do electronics also as the Japanese and this is where M B has fallen down recently. And of course the disastrous idea of assembling the M and ML class in the USA.
But who really cares about updated technology? I for one do not. I'd like to get in the car, start the motor and drive off and not futz around with an operating system or an I drive every time I want the radio on or the temperature up or down a bit.
Unlike Americans, Germans and most of the rest of the world do not give a shyt about drag race performance, they're interested in capability to travel for hours at speeds that could get many tickets on US roads. M B can be slow off the mark at the lights but majority of people outside the USA regard such competition as utterly puerile. To hell with the low percentage diff, I want an overdrive.
You may regard Mercedes Benz as makers of luxury cars. They do make luxury cars. They also make delivery vans, trucks and taxis.
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Thom70
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Joined: 21 Nov 2006 Posts: 4570 Location: Lincoln Nebraska |
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So what about the Porsche drivers? The lambo the Aston the Rolls Royce? Are,nt they just showing off too?Everybody drives the car of their choice, And there it's that word "choice". People drive what they wish to drive despite of what you feel is good or bad. Maybe you could like everyone to drive the same car a Toyota/Lexus. Then we could all dress the same and eat the same food, Live in the same houses and have one person at the top of the pile who thinks that just because a thing isn't liked by him then it is clearly no good. look at history flower it is all there.
Having read your additions and other questions it is evident to me that my 1st impression of you was correct. This is to get a little obsessive. SEEK HELP SOON.
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Mike In Canada
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Joined: 24 Nov 2006 Posts: 4629 Location: Calgary AL Canada |
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you sound like an ad for Lexus, a Lexus isn't a cheap car to own, and the cost keep going up and the quality is less than before. To each his own.
A MB isn't a flashy show off car it's stylish, and conservative.
BMW have way more problems than MB.
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Halle
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Joined: 19 Nov 2006 Posts: 4539 Location: Cincinnati |
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your comparing german engineering with an american variant of a japanese car? I have nothing against lexus, I used to own a gs300, but mercedes cars are just engineered better and have more advanced technology than most other cars out there.
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Darler
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Joined: 25 Nov 2006 Posts: 4698 Location: Greensboro, North Carolina |
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By your "logic," if you wear jeans and I wear regular pants, then I am a show off.
Nothing wrong with wearing jeans all your life, if it is your choice.
My choice is to "show off" in a nice pair of pants.
After reading your extra details.
Let me ask you, how many Mercedes cars have you owned in your life? Do you know all this from your experience? You sound like one of those "experts," who get their "knowledge" from websites and we all know, that if it is written someplace on the web, it must be true.
I had four Mercedes cars all together. Now I have two.
NEVER had any problems with any of them. Maybe I am lucky. with four cars in a row.
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bigbird
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Joined: 12 Nov 2006 Posts: 4719 Location: Dallas, US |
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Does a Lexus appear like a Mercedes or a Mercedes appear like a lexus? I mean Toyota?
They "Copy" Mercedes every chance they get. Technology is the same? hah. Is Toyota releasing a hybrid Hydrogen car soon? Or a diesel hybrid that gets 50 mpg?
My Benz cost me 35,000 and for that I got FREE service, a free loaner when they changed the oil free of charge. free brake pads and rotors, free wiper blades, free car washes and free key chains.
I get 28 mpg, my car is faster than any other BMW in it is class by far I know, I raced them and I used to own one. with twin spark plugs and three valves per cylinder on a 2002 model, stock. with 220 hp. I dare you to compare a Lexus 300 to my cay any day of the week, in price, performance, fuel economy, dependability, and yes, LOOKS. Ain't no chick in Los Angeles gonna give a rats about your Lexus. as well, resale value on the E 350 Mercedes is one of the highest in the Country. Do your homework, cry in your beer and save your money. Maybe one day you may be able to get one. I owned three now for the last ten years and I haven't had to show off still, but people come up to me and say "Nice car." all the time. I do not care, it is not why I bought it. Oh, and it has been ranked as one of the top three safest cars for the model year also. Side air curtains in 2002, four wheel ABS, traction control, etc. Who do you think invents all the new technologies the other car businesses will be using in ten years? Toyota? ha.
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jojo
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Joined: 14 Nov 2006 Posts: 4729 Location: Phoenix USA |
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let me think about it, um. NO. a common problem caused by AC failure will only cost you about four great. have fun.
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